Random thoughts on THE Suicide Squad after seeing a preview showing:
this movie is pretty darn shallow
it nevertheless easily qualifies as a good film
the only Academy awards discussed for this will be pyrotechnics
the critic reviews suggest it is on par with the 2017 Wonder Woman, but it isn’t really quite there
the quiet moments in the film are inventive enough
the overall plot is great
plus: there’s numerous ways the film departs from the standard comic film formula
plus: Bloodsport did not remind me of Deadshot
plus: the film was not trying to be Deadpool
plus: great soundtrack
the impact of some character deaths is watered down from what could’ve been achieved
the performances of Robbie and Kinneman were more grounded and probably superior in the first movie.
the movie provides a thrilling finish, which is no small feat, in view of all that precedes it
not really that much suspense in the film prior to the finale, though the gradual unveiling of the main threat was effective enough to maintain my interest
the film is consistently amusing when it tries to be, but seldom breaks through into “laugh out loud” territory
whether or not Peacemaker has a consistent world view will require further viewings
there’s a plot point involving Peacemaker that’s possibly an Easter Egg to his near-appearance in another comic book that became a movie, but I can’t tell if it’s a deliberate reference
most of my gripes are due to going in with high expectations based on (the fact that you can enter a DC movie with high expectations is a victory in and of itself)
does not particularly demand to be seen in a movie theater, but is a satisfying theater-going experience. Check your local Covid stats
left me looking forward to a Peacemaker series
the post-credits scenes get a thumbs-down
just for the number of “firsts” this film represents, very happy it exists
I give it 3.75 stars out of 5
I agree on about half of your points. I thought it was hillarious throughout and there’s not really another Superhero movie like it.
I’d give it a 5 of 5 personally. I went in with VERY high expectations and the movie’s quality for met. Didn’t nessecarily exceed them, but definitely met them. The ending was especially wild.
Disagree. It’s main thematic ideas are about learning to trust again and remembering how to form bonds after people spent so long isolated and fighting only for themselves. It’s also thought about how easy those bonds can break when first disagreements can happen. It also has great critiques of the perception of what America is, and reconciling with it’s history.
The opening scene though…damn
I actually think the way this way was handled worked really well. I felt like anyone could die, but I wasn’t expecting this in the way it happened. For the back half of the movie, the deaths have a lot of meaning because of the amount of character work done earlier.
I was laughing the entire time.
Be safe everyone!!! The delta variant and covid are MUCH more dangerous now than even 2 weeks ago.
YEP!!! I was kinda expecting something like this, but it wasn’t very good.
5/5 for me. Funny, brutal, and surprisingly meaningful.
dude for a minute I thought you meant cluemaster showed up and steph got mentioned then I realized you meant spoilers,
but question does anyone know what time it appears on hbomax like early in morning night/or not?
I really disliked the first one so this one didn’t have to achieve much to be better but luckily it was good anyway. I enjoyed it while watching it but don’t know that I will ever make time to watch it again. I thought it had some good laughs, big surprises, and good kills. The action was fine but overall nothing special. Knowing Peacemaker is getting his own series makes me assume they thought that he would be the breakout star of the film but I couldn’t care less about seeing more of him. I felt like the effects work for Starro was really distracting. He/she/they looked like they belonged in a spoof of superhero movies or a Robot Chicken scene. Starro is an absurd concept so maybe it’s the only way to do it but it looked too silly or campy to me.
i really enjoyed it, it was super fun, there were a couple things that didn’t add up, but I’ll mention it on the spoiler one, enjoyed how they kept a reference to the last film at a minimum just that Harley, boomer, and flag had worked together before.
Side-note: I’ve seen some reviews state it’s a sequel and some state it’s a reboot. I like to lean towards a Reboot or Soft-Reboot since besides that small detail of those 3 knowing each other, nothing specific was mentioned of their past together and some characters were re-worked like Rick Flag especially and 1 specific bit of Amanda Waller I thought (something from the 1st movie that they avoid in this one).
I avoided the trailers, which I think always helps, but believed the initial reviews that were saying it would surprise you every 5 minutes. If there’s one claim a movie’s never going to live up to, it’s that it will surprise you every 5 minutes. How many DC movies require a clarification that they aren’t in the running for Best Picture, though?
I feel that it is 100% a sequel - the only possibility is it occurs after the first movie. I don’t get why it is so hard for the directors of DC projects to say “sequel”.
I don’t think it’s a sequel but still connects with everything previously in the DCEU.
Kind of like a new comic run. The first squad was its own run in the main continuity and the this one is a new run in the same continuity. You don’t need to read the previous to get this but still connects to it being in the same continuity.
It’s ultimately because they don’t wanna make people feel like they have to have seen the previous movie to understand the next one. It really just plays into the more standalone approach they’re taking w/ the DCEU and DC movies in general. While I can definitely appreciate the freedom that filmmakers have when they’re not beholden to strict continuity, it’s also frustrating because I still desperately want a DC equivalent of the MCU no matter how long it takes, and something like that certainly should take a long time
Maybe it’s something about having less pressure to stay faithful to the first one by avoiding calling it a sequel.
Like with Gunn and interviews I’ve seen with Joel Kinnaman he wanted to do something new and with Rick Flag Joel and Gunn worked close to bring about a Rick Flag that was different from the 2016 version, but that’s just my guess.
I wonder if for DC they’ll just take what sticks and keep that stuff. I imagine this version of Suicide Squad given the critical praise and assuming public praise will keep in line with building continuity within the DCEU, ala Peacemaker show and whatever spin-offs or things James Gunn works on next for DC.
That definitely makes sense, but considering they did the same thing w/ Wonder Woman, I feel like the quality of/response to the 1st movie didn’t play that big a role in the “it’s not a sequel” approach. Even though most people loved the 1st WW, 1984 also wasn’t called a sequel. It really does feel like DC is being the anti-Marvel at this point. Whereas the MCU is a more complex, weaving story that really requires complete viewing to fully appreciate everything, DC movies lately have been more pick your poison. Like you can just check out whatever looks interesting to you and go in cold w/ no prior knowledge needed
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