DC vs Marvel

I was talking about comics that are critically acclaimed and praised by almost everybody in the fandom. Comics that you would find in almost anybody’s top 10 list. Morrison’s doom patrol, Hellblazer dangerous habitats, dark knight returns, Superman red son, justice league new frontier, Gotham Central, etc. I hardly ever see any marvel comics mentioned in those top 10 lists. It’s almost always exclusively dominated by DC.

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I’m sorry @Rogue_Parka I got way too carried away. This response is more my OCD reaction to your well made points than me arguing with you. I hope you can take all this in stride.

You are correct that those are some of the best of the best. I would argue that they all are creator driven using DC IP and somewhat outside of the main DC Universe.

Morrison’s Doom Patrol started as DC but was moved to Vertigo an imprint aimed at an adult audience.

Hellblazer and Swamp Thing made the same trip from DC to Vertigo as did Sandman.

Dark Knight Returns was a prestige limited four issue event outside of the normal DCU and was a Frank Miller driven project. He was recruited after his fantastic run on Daredevil which revived and reshaped that character to this day.

Superman Red Son was another Morrison project that was a three issue Elseworlds series. Kingdom Come was Mark Waid and Alex Ross. Again, both projects were creator driven, outside the normal DCU, and limited series. Add in All-Star Superman.

Justice League: The New Frontier was a limited series by Darwyn Cooke, so another creator project.

Gotham Central was an actual ongoing DC series by Ed Brubaker, Greg Rucka, and Michael Lark. It was set adjacent to the DCU focusing on the cops dealing with Gotham crime away from the Batman focus. It didn’t make the jump to Vertigo, but only lasted 40 issues. The Killing Joke and Batman: Year One were both produced in the main DCU and we’re not miniseries.

Kudos to DC for allowing creators to produce much more personal introspective stories using their IP.

Marvel has taken a different route with their IP. They also have a different trade strategy focusing on Omnibuses of longer running series rather than Absolutes of miniseries.

Captain America by Brubaker, Lark, Perkins, et al was a critical and commercial success that was presented in five omnibuses. The series took place in normal MCU continuity. Creator driven Marvel IP.

Iron Fist by Brubaker and Fraction was a critically acclaimed series that was collected in a single omnibus. Creator driven Marvel IP.

Frank Miller’s Daredevil (2 omnibuses) and Elektra. Creator driven Marvel IP (and he created Elektra).

Brubaker, Lark, Bendis, Maleev, et al Daredevil (4 omnibuses). Creator driven Marvel IP.

Iron Man by Matt Fraction and Salvador Larocca (2 omnibuses and multiple hardcovers).

Avengers by Kurt Busiak and George Perez (2 omnibuses)

Avengers by Jonathan Hickman(2 omnibuses)

Fantastic Four by Byrne (2 omnibuses). Fantastic Four by Hickman (2 omnibuses). Fantastic Four by Waid & Wieringo (1 omnibus).

X-Men by Morrison (1 omnibus). X-Men by Claremont, Cockrum, Byrne, JR JR, Jim Lee, et al (6-8 omnibuses, heck Claremont wrote X-Men for 20 years).

TL;DR I love all kinds of comics and I follow Creators more than Companies. DC’s greatest stories are creator driven as are Marvel’s.

My Library

Top Shelf
Howard Chaykin, Frank Miller, Matt Fraction, BTAS, Gotham Central, Jim Aparo, Snyder & Capullo Batman, Dave Sim Cerebus

Middle Shelf
George Perez, Jack Kirby, Mike Grell, John Byrne, Neal Adams

Bottom Shelf
All Marvel Omnibuses arranged by Creator and Color. Matching trade dress is so nice!

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Mark Millar*

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I get them confused. :rofl:

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Outstanding! I couldn’t agree more @A1waysAJ!

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I’m :100: percent with you. All I was saying was that DC’s comics are constantly mentioned in people’s top 10
Whether they’re within continuity or not is besides the point.

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Thank you. I’m a scathing critic :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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