It’s weird, isn’t it? Things got next level computer aided around 1990. Everything changed. Some of the changes (the costumes) in Returns were shocking, but that’s just Burton/Bo Welch/Stan Winston with twice the money, I remind myself. I mean, the miniatures in Returns take it next level artistic to me. It’s bananas. I’m a miniatures fanatic.
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me too! man i miss them in movies. and matte paintings.
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They never fail. Even if a matte didn’t look “real”, it still looks more real than a CG green screen shot. It was part of the set that players could literally interact with. Ya know, vs staring at a line of sight pole attached to James Spader hovering three feet above his head. Poor digital composites can ruin a movie these days.
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all warm and textured. i don’t think cg will ever be able to improve on this
for reference for people who might not know what we mean, this is how much of Gotham actually existed as a set:
Flugelheim in the movie (lower right):
Flugelheim on the set:
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In camera effects. Make me feel all warm and squishy. I was even further back in my mind. Like, about 90 years ago back.
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All of this^^^ 
Reeves’s take in The Batman did it for me on many fronts/Nolan nailed it on a number facets with BB and TDK, but nothing, and I mean nothing will ever replace these films in my heart
Sorry to hear you were sick- hope you’re feeling better. 
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Agreed. Still forever 
ing Returns tho too.
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I’m going through immunotherapy for wasp allergies. Apparently I didn’t like the last dose, so they’re reducing it by 40% next month. Felt real, real bad for 36 hours. Much improved now, thanks!
These movies are magic to me. Just about perfect for my sensibilities. I don’t need/want anything too grounded in reality either. If I wanted what Nolan/Reeves are bringing to the table, I’d just watch the news. I need a bit of escape in my escape.
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Yay!
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Totally agreed. Give me something fun and meaningful that is quality built and I’ll def be willing to suspend my disbelief and immerse myself in it from start to finish.
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I remember these- they were essentially chocolate Wheat Chex with B’Man Returns shaped Lucky Charms style marshmallows.
They were OK but B’Man 89 cereal was much better cuz it tasted just like a cereal that to date seemed to only be available in the Chicagoland area/midwest:
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I remember hearing once that Bob Kane was suppose to film a cameo at the time for Batman, sadly it didn’t happen. Whether you like him or not it would’ve been cool to see him in the movie, I think his cameo would’ve been perfect had he play a newspaper editor and give Alexander Knox his picture of a bat wearing a suit, “Hey Knox, I’ve got something for you.”
It’s a shame he never had a cameo even in Joel Schumacher’s Batman film. Even if he did, Schumacher did a lousy job at it, finding Bob Kane in Batman & Robin during the auction crowd scene was like finding Where’s Waldo.
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I need to know everything about the Vitamanverse!!! Queen Mineral? The Evil Mage Malnutrition? Squire Whole Grains? 
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I recognize this box, and I was a kid in Texas at that time! 
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This still around?
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According to Wikipedia he did have an enemy called the Not-So-Bright Knight, which struck me as what you’d call Batman if you wanted something slightly less scary than Dark Knight.
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