As Batman and Batgirl follow an unexpected thread linking the three Jokers with someone from the Dark Knightās past, Red Hood dives headfirst into trouble and finds himself struggling to stay afloat without the aid of his allies.
Two issues in and I had a feeling we wouldnāt get any real answers until the third issue.
Iām enjoying it. Iāve usually been a little burned out on Joker stories (I havenāt been too crazy about Joker War), but Iām liking this.
I feel like they strongly hinted that Whoever the original Joker was, he created the other two. Now by the end of issue 3 weāll probably get another Joker. The Mobius chair couldnāt answer because its like asking what the Pittsburgh Steelers real name is- which one?
I almost choked on my water with that Steelers joke
This was an incredible issue, with great themes and character work, though I get the feeling that a lot of the discourse is going to be focused on only one panel.
I like the books so far, and I was surprised how the Joker interaction ended. I liked how Barbaraās recovery was portrayed and how that might help Jason move forward too. I do think a hug or forehead lean or even a forehead/cheek kiss would have fit better as the āmoment.ā I do agree with @Jay_Kay that the kiss was probably just a kiss, not a big romantic connection or reveal. I actually thought the rescue scene seemed more intimate (loved this scene!).
The most questionable moment for me was Batman 's reaction to last issue. I do hope we get to see more from Bruce next time, although I am loving the gocus on Babs and Jason so far. I just want more of everything! Except naked almost-Jokersā¦ I saw way too many of those poor pastey guys.
Definitely ā I loved how Barbara and Jason connected and how she gave him something he really needed. I just wish it was done in a more platonic way ā like unless theyāre serious about making Barbara/Jason a thing, itās just going to confuse the issue.
Speaking of those two, someone on Reddit found a great potential callback in the scene where Barbara rescues Jason, comparing to to when Barbara comforted Tim in the flashback in Batman Beyond: Return of The Joker.
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This issue surprised me in a lot of ways. Didnāt expect to see Joe Chill turn up like that, and while I had heard about the kiss prior to reading the issue, Iām relieved that they wonāt be going in that direction.
It was also interesting to see how Johns is continuing to explore the themes of healing and trauma with this issue. Not just necessarily Bruceās, Jasonās, and Barbaraās experiences, but even looking at the Jokers. I mean, Joker 2 literally eats dinner and pretends to still have his wife and son from Killing Joke, and Joker 1 brings up the issue that it hurts for him to laugh. I donāt know, just seems interesting to me.
As always, the art was spectacular, and I canāt get enough of those Easter eggs!
well im not gonna write anything about that one panel butā¦
Oh, thatās interesting! The rescue scene reminded me of Babs comforting Dick at the end of Nightwing (1996) 88.
I enjoyed this issue. It raises more questions than answers. Hopefully we get a bunch of answers in the next issue.
Iām curious, does anyone else think that that Joker that they thought was Jason first, is going to be important somehow? He was coherent enough to answer that he wasnāt Jason. But also seemed to understand what they were looking for? I have no idea who he could be, but still.
I also wish they hadnāt done that at the end. A simple embrace would have been fine. But oh well. Solid issue either way.
I think thatās definitely their plan, but I donāt think itās going to work out completely.
In fact, I have an idea of how the story will end. Iāll spoil it in case Iām right. The story will end with the two Jokers seemingly dying, with all these different people being experimented on with varying success. But in the last page, when our heroes think thereās a chance the Joker is finally gone for goodā¦a white figure pops out of the ashes, sees his reflection, and laughs. The last panel shows in his hand a vial of the stuff they were using to create new Jokers. Essentially: the Three Jokers are dead, but The Joker is still alive, and no matter what they do, The Joker will always live.
I feel the same way. Hell, I think an embrace would have worked a LOT better.
Anyway, another fun Easter egg I found on Reddit: the two thugs that Red Hood beats down look just like the two thugs from the opening of Batman '89.
Really makes sense because apparently the Burton movies were a HUGE influence on Fabok, his first introduction to the character and mythos. You can especially see it in how he redesigned Batmanās costume ā which honestly, I would be perfectly fine if DC kept this look around for all three of them.
Soā¦
I read this today and Iāll catch up on the discussion tomorrow, but Iām curious how you all feel about how cannon this story is with the mention of a certain someone who was killed during City of Baneā¦
I donāt generally concern myself with how cannon stories are but I feel itās important here if we are looking for answers as far as who Joker is.
My guess is itās cannon. Itās not in Geoff Johnsās nature to do anything thatās outside of continuity.
I just figure itās either set before he died or after he (inevitably) comes back.
Iām pretty sure that itās been mentioned time and time again by Johns that this is meant to be a āin continuityā¦ kindaā story. Johns is calling back to a lot of different pieces of Batman lore, ie the Moxon crime family, Gaggy, the laughing fish, not to mention all of Killing Joke and Death in the Family. So in that way, the story is definitely putting itself in continuity, in as much that if you drew up a timeline of iconic Batman/Joker stories and ignored things like reboots, Three Jokers would fit in pretty seamlessly. Seeing that a certain someone is alive and well here despite meeting their demise in City of Bane, you could make an argument that Three Jokers simply takes place at some point before Tom Kingās run (or at least, before City of Bane). Itās also worth pointing out that if you are up to speed with Tynionās current run on Batman, he is doing something with the Joker which most certainly does not tie in to Three Jokers (and his Joker story is also calling back to previous continuity, specifically Snyderās Death of the Family, as well as fabricating a retcon or two for the sake of giving his story more weight).
Long story short, I donāt think that Three Jokers is in main continuity, but I do feel like thereās more continuity between Three Jokers and the overarching Batman mythos than other Black Label books have been.
Also I wanted to point out an Easter egg I just noticed on my second read of Three Jokers No. 2: If you look at Joe Chillās inmate number, 0331939, it is actually a reference to the first issue that showed Batmanās origin story (Detective Comics No. 33, which was released in 1939).