The Psychology Of Supervillains Club..Novmber 2020 - President Luthor

The Psychology Of Supervillains Club…November 2020 - President Luthor

Welcome to The Psychology Of Supervillians Club. This month we will delve and dissect President Luthor . Step into his mind and determine what makes him tick

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  • We will explore if the supervillain is actually correct in their views and actions, are they justified in what they do and potentially would their fictional worlds be better off if they actually did win and defeat the hero.

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Most importantly, have fun. Enjoy your process. Revel in it. Don’t be afraid to let some of your “evil” out. We’ve all got a bit of it in us somewhere. If we didn’t, we wouldn’t find villains interesting, now would we. :smiling_imp:


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Our November 2020 Supervillian of the month - President Luthor
There have been so many incarnations of Lex Luthor, they are often difficult to keep track of. Sure, in most of them, he hate the Big Blue Boy Scout, but beyond that, there are many different incarnations of Lex Luthor. So in this election month, we are going to focus on President Luthor

From his unauthorized biography to his downfall. Just what happens when a supervillian turns his brilliant mind and sizable resources to politics? And more importunely…why? Or in his own words: President…Do you know how much power I’d have to give up to be President? - Lex Luthor


Below are some comic book and video resources for President Luthor available on DCU.

This is by no means a definitive list.

Reading the entirety of the resources below is not expected.

Comic Resources:
Lex Luthor: The Unauthorized Biography

Superman - 162 (1986-2006)

Adventures of Superman - 586 (1987-2006)

Superman: The Man of Steel - 110 (1991 -)

Adventures of Superman - 590 (1987-2006)

Adventures of Superman - 594 (1987-2006)

Superman/Batman: Public Enemies Storyline (6 issues)

Video Resources
Justice League: A Better World - Part 1 - Justice League - s2e11

Justice League: A Better World - Part 2 - Justice League - s2e12

Justice League Unlimited: Question Authority - Justice League Unlimited - s1e22


What resources you use or don’t use is up to you. The only limit is your imagination and deduction.

Use whatever materials you like in building up your case for the psychology. Although noting what you’re basing it on could be helpful as resources for the club and our members.

I know with the current pandemic circumstances, some folks may have more or less time on their hands than normal.

What do you think of the character of President Luthor?

Does political power strengthen or weaken Luthor as a villain?

Is Luthor, in his President Luthor incarnation, always doomed to let his animosity for Superman be his undoing?
Was becoming President Luthor the best chance he’s ever had at taking Superman “out of play”. Making himself better and greater than Superman?

Without further ado, we delve into the mind of President Luthor.
Let the adventure begin!!!


I might just pop in for this. It sounds right up my alley.

Friendly advice @DeSade-acolyte: Check out your spelling of November in the thread title. :slight_smile:


I didn’t think we’d get to Luthor so soon.

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All are welcome here. Please do join in. Looking forward to your “hot take” on President Luthor.

Title fixed. Many thanks :pray:


Hot take: President Luthor is President Douche. :grin:

I’ll do a re-read on some of your selected books and offer a more thorough analysis when time allows.

Re: title fix, you’re welcome. :+1:t2:


I thought this would be cool. Trying to cover a villain as prolific as Lex in his entirety would be tough to do in a month. If this works out, we can take on some other really prolific villains in a similar way. (Darkseid, The Joker, Catwoman & Deathstroke all pop immediately pop to mind.)

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Oh, so specifically POTUS Luthor. That works. And taking a slice of life from the bigger bads would give us time to research and discuss without contemplating the entire history of the character.

I like this pattern: October::Dracula, November::President Luthor. I hope December will have something or other holidaze related


I’m wondering how many “evil Santa stories” DCU has. :smiling_imp:
Or maybe a collection of holiday themed stories and their associated villains.


President Luthor is my favorite iteration of my favorite villain. Far more interesting than just ‘evil genius’ And will some hot takes consider President Luthor a ‘douche’ the truth is Luthor has a point. We’ve seen in Injustice and elsewhere what happens when an unchecked Superman loses it. Luthor has a whole lot wrong too, but he’s right not to entirely trust big blue.


Lobo has at least one story featuring Kris Kringle.

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Prez Lex has a point…at the top of his head. rimshot

Seriously though, looking out for humanity to safeguard it from The Man of Steel (should he go rogue) is fine and good. Even Superman needs checks and balances, afterall.

It’s just how Luthor goes about it (as a businessman and ultimately Commander-in-Chief) that makes him the Springtime Fresh President.


We can cop out with Calendar Man


Perhaps. :thinking::thinking::thinking: Although, maybe we should save CM for January.

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Luthor = Nixon


However you like, Dear Leader. Of the Psychology of Supervillains Club.

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Although, Nixon had a long service as a public official. In the end, sure. He served as VP under Eisenhower just to start with. His rising lust for and to keep power and personal grudges, much like Lex, were his ultimate undoing. Same hell, different scenery as the as goes.

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All that and particularly on foreign policy Nixon was one of the smartest most insightful presidents we’ve ever had. Pragmatic on domestic issues, and a hole where his soul should be.


Yeah, I’m interested in seeing how Kex handles foreign policy. I kinda have always wondered if some of the ideas for this iteration of Lex has conscious or subconscious tones of Nixon.


I have a soul shaped hole! But that’s because i sold mine. I forgot until a station at work became soul crushing. but instead it just crushed the hole inside me.