Is WB/DC in Danger!?

Lots of rumors and speculation rampant. Supergirl did get cancelled for sure. Still unconfirmed that HBOMax will stop production on all scripted series. So far that is only a rumor but makes sense since Max is going to be folded into Discoveryplus and there is no sense with going ahead with production until they know what the platform will look like.

@SuperBrainiac

I guess, still Zaslav is already Damaging WB’s brand and reputation. Since they had their presentation a couple of days ago WBD stock has plummeted! Its down over 16% and is only at $14.59 cents a share.

Its painfully obvious Zaslav is bad for Business! I hope and pray he’s replaced with someone more competent from the WB side of things sooner rather then later, while there’s still a WB/DC left to save!

He’s damaging it to the people who are upset over the cancellation of the Batgirl HBO Max streaming movie.

No one else cares. And trust me when I say that. :smile:

And the next hit Warner Bros. movie that comes out those same people will still not care.

And looking at the list of upcoming Warner Bros. movies, and…

Salem’s Lot is probably going to do okay. It’s based on the Stephen King novel, so those usually do well – at least It and Pennywise did well for Warner Bros…

Barbie looks like it’s going to be silly fun, so that’ll probably do fine.

Dune: Part Two is going to do well.

I guess they’re doing Wonka with Timothée Chalamet. He’s a draw, so that’ll be fine.

Furiosa is going to do well.

Joker: Folie à Deux is going to do well.

Emily… that’s about “the brief life of famed English writer Emily Brontë before she wrote Wuthering Heights.”

That’s probably going to win a f*cking Oscar, or get nominated for Best Picture or something.

The next The Batman movie is going to do well.

And the stock dropped… yeah, the company is $40 billion dollars in debt. Discovery knew that when they bought it.

And here’s how the stock market often works: “Buy the rumor, sell the news.”

We had news… that’s when you sell. That’s why the stock dropped. And now the stock is cheap… and now is the time when you start buying; if one wanted to invest in Warner Bros…

And you buy now and hold it for a few quarters. If it goes up in that time to a number that you want, you sell and take your profit. Or hold if you want to hold it long term. Or sell some and hold some… y’know, whatever the person wants to do, whatever fits their portfolio and their investing strategy.

I personally wouldn’t buy Warner Bros. stock regardless, because I wouldn’t invest in these old media companies anyway. But, y’know, whatever… :smiling_face:

Just buy Apple and hold, that’s what I do – unsolicited stock advice… :smile:

But yeah, when it comes to Warner Bros. and super-heroes, all they have is Batman. Everyone knows that, and some may not like it, but everyone knows it. And I think they’re just wasting their time and money with anything else. But it’s their company and their money, so they can obviously do what they want.

But yeah, the cancellation of the Batgirl HBO Max streaming movie means nothing to anyone else other than the people online who cared about it.

Warner Bros., and all of these old media companies: Paramount, Universal… throw Netflix in there too, I guess… they all have challenges ahead of them.

@patterson65.37405

On the DC side of things, why couldn’t WB get a creative person in charge who is also enthusiastic about DC? I would nominate James Gunn.

Can he run anything? Other than his own movies?

You need someone who knows how to run things. That’s who you want in charge.

Creatives aren’t usually the best people to put in charge. They know how to create things, but may not know how to be in charge of things.

@Clonegeek18

Give it time

Exactly.

Give the man until 2024 and 2025, when he puts out his own movies.

That’s how you do it.

“Show me what you got, what you thought is worthy.” That’s when the rubber hits the road.

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Lots of people cared about the Batgirl movie, so saying nobody cares is insulting.

And plenty of people are justifiably not on board with Zaslav’s plan to merge HBOMAX with Discovery+

Don’t be surprised if most Warner Bros. Movies over the next 2-4 years just do ok and either just break even or lose money. WB’s reputation as a brand is already being damaged and that will effect other films reception.

Sure Joker 2 will probably do well because its joker. But I wouldn’t be surprised if alot of films didn’t do so hot in coming months/years.

@SuperBrainiac

Lots of people cared about the Batgirl movie, so saying nobody cares is insulting.

Yeah, I didn’t say nobody cares, I said:

He’s damaging it to the people who are upset over the cancellation of the Batgirl HBO Max streaming movie.

No one else cares. And trust me when I say that. :smile:

@SuperBrainiac

And plenty of people are justifiably not on board with Zaslav’s plan to merge HBOMAX with Discovery+

There were plenty of people who were upset with Warner Bros. over the Snyder Cut.

Yes, some one them were real, and some of them were bots, but, y’know… :laughing:

Either way, you have one group who gets upset over one thing, and you have another who gets upset over something else.

You have that with literally everything, and I don’t see how this is any different.

And online seems to exist for people to get upset over something. It’s really rather tired to me, but whatever…

And Warner Bros. has 92 million subscribers now. Last March they had like 48 million.

They want to be at 130 million by 2025. Let’s check back in 2025 and see where they’re at… or just check back next year when this merging of the services goes through.

It may go up, or may go down, or it may hold steady. Let’s see.

@SuperBrainiac

Don’t be surprised if most Warner Bros. Movies over the next 2-4 years just do ok and either just break even or lose money. WB’s reputation as a brand is already being damaged and that will effect other films reception.

Sure Joker 2 will probably do well because its joker. But I wouldn’t be surprised if alot of films didn’t do so hot in coming months/years.

Honestly, that Batgirl movie never even had a release date. Only we knew about it, the general public had no idea of it’s existence.

And when they green-lit it, it was intended to be a streaming movie. And they didn’t even give it a big budget: $70 million dollars. It was never something that they expected to be big. It was just content for the service.

And there was a House Party reboot movie that was complete (unlike Batgirl), and unlike Batgirl it had a release date: July 28th. That’s gone now too, and who knows what’s going to happen with that – it’s probably completely gone. And only we knew about that too… some of us, at least.

No one else cared about it though… and I personally didn’t and don’t either, but that’s neither here nor there.

But yeah, what happened in the last couple of days with these cancellations will have zero affect on what Warner Bros. does in the future.

People will go and see the movies that they want to see. The company canceling something doesn’t factor into any of that. I mean, really… :laughing:

Are you not going to see an upcoming Warner Bros. movie that interest you because they cancelled Batgirl?

If so, then yeah, you frighten me. :smiling_face:

If WB/ Discovery is going to light hundreds of millions of dollars on fire for no reason, at least give us a bunch of DC Comics that few people will read.

DC Explosion 2023! Five hundred new mini series! Air Wave to Zatanna!

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@CaptainYesterday

If WB/ Discovery is going to light hundreds of millions of dollars on fire for no reason, at least give us a bunch of DC Comics that few people will read.

DC Explosion 2023! Five hundred new mini series! Air Wave to Zatanna!

Well, they’re not doing it for no reason. :smiling_face:

They’re doing it because they’re tens of billions of dollars in debt due to mismanagement or poor management from the previous owners of Warner Bros…

Anyway, a thought on the Static HBO Max movie:

They were working with Michael B. Jordan’s production company on it. And it has a writer and everything…

Being an HBO Max movie though probably kills it, because they’re probably no longer going to do those.

However, this…

The project has an urgency and agency surrounding it thanks to its heavy-hitting producers, who have stated an intention to build a cinematic universe centered around black superheroes.

If they are able to rework it and make it something that can go into the theater, then it may have a chance… maybe.

Because I think having a multiple-year and multiple-movie plan is what you’re going to have to have in order to make it work. The Milestone stuff needs it’s own 5-year, or 7-year, or 10-year plan.

And I feel that they have to do Static, and Icon and Rocket, and Hardware. And I feel they have to commit to that and state that ahead of time and communicate that to any potential audience.

Just doing Static alone and leaving it at… “we might do more, we might not”… I don’t know if that’s going to work. I think they have to have a plan. And of course, Warner Bros. has to commit to it too. And so that’s a hurdle that may be kind of tough to clear.

And Milestone I think is their best chance for diversity. Because DC has like John Stewart and not much of anything else. There’s of course other characters, but I don’t think any of them can be much more than secondary and tertiary characters in team movies.

Milestone characters I think can probably hold their own and headline their own movies. And that’s true diversity to me: being the star of your own movie. Just being in a movie is fine, but being the star is better. That’s next level, and that’s where you want to be.

Anyway, just a thought…