The prelude to the Crisis! If you missed the announcement, a Crisis is coming to the Clubs of DC Universe. The News section will also be updating the event as it unfolds.
Join World of Wonder as we explore what happens right before Wonder Woman enters into Crisis! The Monitor and Lyla are up to something… Worlds will live, worlds will die and the universe will never be the same.
What to read: WONDER WOMAN (1942-) #322-326
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DISCUSSION QUESTIONS
How did you feel about Steve Trevor’s story in the first issue?
What did you enjoy the most about the villains in these issues?
What is your opinion on the conflict between Hippolyta and Diana?
Are there any quotes, panels, or scenes you found particularly compelling?
Share your thoughts on the reading overall and let’s discuss
First off, seconding the logo! Now I’m tempted to try to make one even though I have zero photoshop skills. Maybe I’ll just be super-cheap and use this one.
Thanks, Jay! That’s actually a pretty sweet logo you posted.
I’m for sure planning on reading Crisis with the club that will be covering it. I’m super interested in finding out more about it through the coming weeks
Lunchtime was Wonder Woman time today. Really liked the issue when Etta was Wonder Etta. It’s so tough to get a good Etta story, but I really liked this. She stood up for herself but physically and emotionally. The villains were very good, and enjoyed the completion of the issue. The downside was Steve’s “little buddy” and his child sidekicks was really not good. That aged the books more the presentation of women did in the books. I’ll have a few more thoughts later, but I’m really interested in what’s bugging Etta?
This panel right here exemplifies what I love about Wonder Woman stories. Even when they’re horribly dated by old sexist ideas, the story of Wonder Woman, Paradise Island, and the Amazons is one we rarely get in any media. Shes indomitable in mind and spirit, full of compassion but ready to dismantle hatred. Occasionally I prefer a less “perfect” rage against the system, but OG Wonder Woman is the fantasy of every little girl (or every little person, honestly, who has dealt with prejudice and discrimination) to be stronger and better than their oppressors.
She is a desire to not only escape the bonds that hold us but to help others escape too. To destroy the chains in the first place so they can never again hobble human beings unjustly.
I was relating to Steve so much when he said that.
Hippolyta really was trying to just sweep her actions under the rug. “Sure, I played with your memories and erased your greatest love and best friend right out of your life, but no biggie. ”
I also loved the panel where Wonder Woman tells Eros that women don’t exist for men/gods to walk all over. There is another comic of Wonder Woman that I read where I wish she had said that to Zeus.
Such a great point you bring up! There’s a reason why Wonder Woman has withstood the test of time and continues to be relative today.
How did you feel about Steve Trevor’s story in the first issue?
I really don’t have much experience with this era of Wonder Woman, so all this stuff with parallel worlds and resurrecting as gods was a bit to take in. It’s interesting, though for new readers I don’t know how well this works.
I will say, if WW 1984 is set on bringing Trevor back, doing it via Aphrodite or Eros in a similar vein could work.
I have no idea what the context was, but it smelled of clumsy retcons to undo other clumsy retcons. Very confusing.
Honestly, I wasn’t terribly impressed with any of them. You had the four costume-types just kind of dancing on the Monitor’s strings, the generic alien invaders, and we didn’t see enough of Montez to get a clear idea of what his deal is. I guess Eros’ power trip was reasonably threatening, but it was basically a super-slugfest.
This was probably the most interesting part of the first four issues. I’ve never really seen the two so clearly at odds, and it made for some interesting drama.
It’s a small thing, but I liked the game the two reporters played with the quarter in the fifth issue. It was a cool visual.
So, worth pointing out that the first four issues were written by a different writer from the last, and the difference was like night and day. In Dan Mishkin’s issues, everything felt kind of confusing and I didn’t really feel like I had any particular reason to care about most of the characters. The last issue was written by Mindy Newell (who, as a sidenote, scripted a stretch of George Perez’s run that we haven’t gotten to yet; some good stuff in there), and she managed to work in more characterization in her one issue than Mishkin did in his four without sacrificing pacing.
As another sidenote, these issues had the sloppiest coloring I’ve ever seen in a professional comic. I have no idea what happened with that.
First off, I love the image you created for this topic. It looks amazing!
How did you feel about Steve Trevor’s story in the first issue?
I thought it was a creative way to bring him back. He’s imbued with the memories of the previous Steve. I really enjoyed the Steve vs. Eros fight. Eros needs ta’ chill.
What did you enjoy the most about the villains in these issues?
I like Eros because he was passionate about what he wanted. He was wrong, but passionate.
What is your opinion on the conflict between Hippolyta and Diana?
I understand why Diana needed to walk away for awhile. She felt betrayed.
Are there any quotes, panels, or scenes you found particularly compelling?
Lots ! See below:
One of the fun things about the multiverse is watching people discover they’re in a multiversity, like this panel
She’s raven haired in Rebirth and she’s Hippolyta. I don’t think I’ve ever seen her as Hippolyte outside of the Pérez story we’ve been reading. Even in myth, she’s Hippolyta.
Eros was wild! He definitely had passion, but misplaced up the wazoo.
I know you’ve read New 52 Wondy, didn’t Eros growing remind you of Strife? I know Giganta does it, but here it reminded me of Strife when she was on Themyscira.
Totally get Diana’s feelings. Hippolyta didn’t even seem to realize why what she did was wrong.
People discovering the multiverse exists is great, but I have never seen a story where someone from another Earth doesn’t realize they’ve been living in a different universe. That’s wild and borderline scary to think about.
Captain Wonder looks good, too bad the one we got was not Steve, but instead the Doc. It’s funny though, when they make a male Wonder Woman he’s always fully clothed…
Thanks for stopping by JL! Love reading your thoughts
I totally didn’t even connect those dots! Strife is so fun and terrible in the New 52 run that I just put her in a class of her own. But now, that I think of it, yeah, they both grew in size!