What’s a DC character that you think DC treats horribly? Wether it’s blatant disrespect, constant attempts to ruin reputation, etc?
My #1 answer is Tim Drake. Why is he always evil? Why do Jason and Damien crap on him so excessively? Why is he constantly sidelined? WHY WON’T HE AGE?! Why do his friend’s leave him? Why can’t he progress?
Maxwell Lord. I don’t why but they did a complete 180 on his character and gave him absolutely no redeeming qualities when he was once a good guy. Even Sinestro has some as a villain.
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Steph! I think things are slightly better for her now that Didio is gone from DC, but I don’t think she has any writer or editor who loves her as one of their favorite characters enough to push her like Dixon, Bryan Q. Miller, or Tynion did.
OMG THE WAY THEY PUSHED HER OUT AS ROBIN!! I hated how Bruce treated her as Robin too.
Unless a character is the embodiment of evil, I’ll never like a villian being pure evil. Even Joker hates nazis.
It’s been said already in the thread, but Tim for sure
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This is a good topic, so if you don’t mind, I would like to put two more here to share.
Jacob Kane. While I am not saying he is always a good man, Jacob Kane does love his daughter and before the colony, he had worked with her to stop crime in their own way. I miss that. I say that the absence of him is disheartening. I think of what CW did and now Gotham knights that people will always think he is a bad guy.
This one is more of a pet peeve, definitely my own opinion, but I feel like after John Ridley introduced Jace Fox in future state that there has been a distancing that DC comics has had with his brother Luke Fox Batwing. For some reason they did not want Luke Fox as Batwing and wanted him to do something else, pushing him away from the bat-family books and the Fox Family focused I am Batman series. I thought it was just writer John Ridley, but I noticed Matthew Rosenberg, and Stephanie Williams followed the same template, so I had to believe it was editorial that decided that Luke Fox should not be Batwing.
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That was his development for the last two years. Recently in 2023 in the Power of Celebration one-shot. Luke Fox as Batwing alongside Vixen was said to return in a future storyline during Dawn of DC. Would love if they didn’t disservice him anymore and spotlight Batwing in more comics.
This conversation reminded me of another one. Duke Thomas / Signal! He has been sidelined since his introduction despite his potential. I know Tom Taylor got some crap about his lack of Duke in his books. The Batfam webtoon also promised more Duke but they have been ignoring him as of late
I’ve always thought it must be hard introducing characters like Duke Thomas. I really liked him when he was introduced. If you’re a new writer on a title like Batman, there are so many characters to work with, I can understand how characters like Duke would get overlooked. Plus, so often new writers don’t seem to be able to handle characters like that as well as the original. There are many characters that I really only like when they’re done by a specific writer.
Actually, they use him for an issue you can get with the fast pass. or wait.
For me, the answer always comes down to characters created in or focused on in the 1990s. Conner Kent, Kyle Raynor, Connor Hawke, Impulse, Steel. They all get the short shrift because they were created during a time of upheaval when the company was trying to create legacy characters.
Some of them seem to be making a comeback under the new direction, but I really wouldn’t mind a little more focus on Kyle. He was my GL when I started reading comics and I miss seeing him around the DCU.
I’m with you on both Jacob Kane and Luke Fox! Both excellent characters served VERY poorly lately. Though I perhaps controversially liked both Jacob and Luke in Tynion’s Tec run.
I personally think Duke was over-pushed, and the neglect now is the result of a complete lack of fan response in general. There are some who do like him, but I don’t think he’s grown into his role, instead, we’re told that he’s getting “Justice League level training” in the deplorable “Secret Files” one shot by Tony Patrick (who thankfully seems to have moved on from DC as a writer). I think if Brandon Thomas could really work with Duke, he’d catch on better, especially as part of a team like the Outsiders, but there was an awful lot of telling the readers he was great, instead of letting him build support.
A lot of these guys have come back recently…and I don’t think it’s an accident that this coincides with Dan Didio’s waning influence and exit from DC. His 20 year reign did huge damage to people even knowing about these characters, though.
I’d love to see Kyle some more, too! Hopefully we can persuade Jeremy Adams to feature him in his Hal Jordan story! Or maybe PKJ? Both on are twitter and very friendly!
His development reminds me of kid flash Wallace West. Both became so much better afterwards. Actually didn’t hate Tony Patrick’s take on Signal, but loved Brandon Thomas’s version more.
Did you ever read Scott Snyder Signal story in Tales of the Dark multiverse? That one issue made me a instant fan.
I don’t know if I read that, but that unfortunately reminds me that the choice to let the Joker name the brand new hero, and let him know Duke after an inanimate object…it’s just so boneheadedly bad decisionmaking by Snyder, Tynion, and the editors.
I was willing to go with Patrick, but his Secret Files story not only said “Duke is Justice League Leve” (which is ridiculous, since he loses EVERYTHING in that issue), but it also tears down the We Are Robin characters so viciously I wanted to scream. (Similar to how the Clownhunter Secret Files tore down Gotham Academy as a school). Just disrespectful without purpose.
Kal-El/Clark Kent/Superman, all the crud they’ve pulled with him since Rebirth has made me feel like this
