I don’t think anything we see is true. Because I don’t find the Joker interesting, personally. Any real interest he has is completely separate from his origin. It’s not where he came from, it’s what he does that defines him.
@Mr_Morbach I would agree with what you are saying, but I don’t think that’s what Moore or most of the big fans of Killing Joke who love to talk about “two sides of the same coin” think is so great about the story. I think they genuinely think Batman has more in common with the Joker than with those he helps. (This is, btw, the same reason I loathe the ending of Scott Snyder’s Endgame.)
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I am nothing like him. I have nuch more in common with Penguin, Catwoman, and Maxie.
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Hm. I can’t say I’ve seen many arguments like that regarding TKJ, but I don’t see that more than a surface-level yin/yang, “can one exist without the other”, thing, since Joker “represents chaos” and Batman “represents order”, all that jazz, and probably wouldn’t sound so profound to an experienced philosophy professor.
I don’t know about Moore feeling Bats and Joker are the same. He actually looks back on the book with some regret, and not just because of what happened to Barbara.
As for readers and fans of the story, people have a tendency to see things that aren’t necessarily there, or hyperbolize minute, innocuous elements (which is why I tend to disagree with fan-ships and be skeptical of claims of some characters allegedly being “coded” in some way). They can make an argument and it can even be compelling, but in some cases it may just be projection or a misinterpretation.
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Totally disagree. I need an explanation for why that blasted clown makeup never washes off when he falls into a body of water.
By the way, these images are from two different issues of Batman from 1941, and they’re hardly the only times that it happens that year. The Clown Prince of Crime falls into the water a lot!
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Aquababy is the best member of the Aquaman Family
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Joker needs to be treated as a normal villain instead of being a spectal villan
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He could have been if he had lived.
Porm and Topo are tough competition though.
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Problem with that is he sells so much.
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People love seeing me impale batarangs in him.
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Edgy realist Joker doesn’t really work, the over the top Joker is the best
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Who writes the edgy realist, and who writes the over the top?
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I miss Dan Jurgens on Action Comics. His Rebirth run was incredible, but it felt like whatever ending he had was rushed just so they could bring in Bendis who, I’m gonna be honest, didn’t do a great job on the Super-titles.
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Agreed.
I liked Bendis’ Ultimate Marvel work, but his idiosyncrasies and habits (like dragging out dialogue) really had me considering dropping Action (the only DC title I buy anymore).
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This is unpopular?
(Kidding, I know it is. But it’s an opinion I share, at least partly )
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Can we (and by “we”, I mean the comics community collectively) please find something other than Batman: Year One, Batman: The Long Halloween, or Batman: Hush to recommend as “Batman for Beginners”?
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That’s one I often hear beginners shouldn’t read.
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