[RR: Red Hood 6] REDemption: Aug. 3-16

[AlexanderKnox]

Yes. The time range is in the thread title.

@hdeguirant.60252

Personally I liked it, but the team with Biz and Artemis continues to be better

I am looking forward to the expanded Rebirth team, too.

[mysterious_stranger]

@JasonTodd428

That is another reason I stuck with the book initially. For all its flaws it did at least put all three of them in a better place then where they were before the reboot. It was a breath of fresh air after years of psycho killer Jason, drugged to the gills Roy and clingy ex Kori to see them acting like normal people again or at least as normal as people in a superhero universe can be. For me it added a spark of life to each of them that had been missing for years.

Yeah, this is more or less the conclusion I came to after Rebirth convinced me to give Lobdell another chance. There are a lot of flaws in RHATO, but the scenario for Jason and Roy before the reboot was bad. (I still miss Lian, though.)

[JasonTodd428]

@autumnal_stranger2

There are a lot of flaws in RHATO, but the scenario for Jason and Roy before the reboot was bad . (I still miss Lian, though.)

Lian’s death figures heavily in Roy’s pre-N52 situation. I miss her as well. If the N52 had been better executed and better received we might have gotten to the point where Lian could have been reintroduced.

[mysterious_stranger]

I’m still hopeful once they finally resolve the last of this HiC nonsense. The Titans stuff in Rebirth was good for Roy, and Rebirth RHATO addressed a lot of my complaints with New 52 RHATO.

[john.21795]

I’m not exactly sure why, but this book feels very “of it’s time” in a way that I didn’t notice in some other comics I’ve read. Something about the book screams late 2000s- early 2010s. Maybe it’s Roy’s general aesthetic. Maybe it’s the way the women are written/drawn.

[AlexanderKnox]

@john.21795

Maybe it’s Roy’s general aesthetic.

That cap remains a point of controversy.

[JasonTodd428]

I like the cap.

[Jay_Kay]

Okay, little late, but finished re-reading these seven issues. So, pros and cons time.

PROS:

• Like mentioned, as flawed as these issues can be, this is definitely the best takes on Roy, Kori and Jason in years. Almost from the beginning, I had fun with their dynamic together.

• This series is really the first in DC’s turn in making Killer Croc a more sympathetic, well-rounded character, with him being Roy Harper’s sponsor in beating his addiction, and I LOVE that.

• Kenneth Rocafort is a BEAST of an artist. He draws incredible action, beautifully complicated and elaborate locales and fantasy elements, and can even do some great emotional acting when called for it.

CONS:

• As I mentioned, the All-Caste/Untitled stuff is…confusing, to say the least. In case you needed a reminder that Lobdell was one of the leading X-Men writers of the 90s, this definitely proves it. It’s not that it’s a BAD idea – a group of immortal cavemen that were touched by an ancient, primordial evil that they swear to battle? That’s kinda cool, but it’s kind of hurriedly explained; and while it’s great to give Jason a bigger purpose than just trolling the Bat-Family with bullets and costume changes, I wonder if it’s maybe a little too fantastical for Jason to be part of.

• The other sort of main villain in these issues, Crux, was also a dud. Again, interesting hook, but not really enough to make him feel very interesting and just feels like a B-plot to the overall story. What’s funny is that I remember reading in interviews that at one point Lobdell was considering adding Crux to the team and while I think something interesting could be done with the character, I don’t think that would have worked with this team.