Pride Profile: The Marstons

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Recently we had a WAL for that great biopic, which may not be accurate historically, but I felt like thematically it was beautiful. Check it out if you haven’t yet!

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Thanks for the reminder @Mae, tied into that was the DC History Club’s:

Between Harley’s Crew and the History Club this was absolutely one of my favorite topic months.

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Was the movie made by DC?

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No, a number of smaller production companies along with Sony Pictures. The family it sounds like was not thrilled with the depiction, and it does take liberties even with facts that we know to be true. But, still a nice piece of entertainment if you’re okay with adult themes.

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I was just asking b/c I was wondering whether to mention them here: Who Are All the LGBT+/Queer Characters at DC?

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We had long “talk” about these folks. I guess it depends on how broadly you define things. We know they had this unconventional loving family. Who the heck knows beyond that. They are certainly important from a representation point of view because of Wonder Woman and that she represents. I see you have a lot of foot notes explaining why someone is on. Me, I’d add them and footnote it.

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I will be watching ‘Professor Marston and the Wonder Women’ tonight - it’s available on Hoopla for those that use it (free streaming rental from your library).

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Cool. Jump back here or the History Club link or the WAL link. Give us the pronouncement of Agent Leiter

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For a much more historically accurate take on the Marstons and the creation of Wonder Woman, I’d highly recommend The Secret History of Wonder Woman by Jill Lepore, available in text or audio format.

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A fantastic read

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The Secret History is one of the strangest real-life stories that lead into the creation of something so marvelous as Wonder Woman. I love the improbable series of events that lead to Marston at DC, and it seems like they had to happen in that way to create a character that still resonates 80 years later, and was definitely an early example of Pride representation in comics. Subtle by today’s standards, but radical at the time.

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It wasn’t a best seller for nothing. Great research, good story entertainingly written

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Okay, I found a copy of the book online. I need to get back into a little more non-fiction, anyway.

I don’t believe the movie is dishonest in anyway-- just a bit of shorthand to get as much as you can into 1 hr 48 minutes.

By the way, nicely written intro at the top.

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Dishonest is not the word I would use, fictionalized probably more accurate

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That’s probably accurate. Is the movie Hidden Figures heavily fictionalized? You betcha. Is the point hammered home pretty well anyway? Yea, I’d say so. Same thing here.

For the most part, society should not decide what love is for us. We decide that for ourselves.

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I object more to the movie not giving Liz more direct credit for creating Wonder Woman than the relationship part

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Perception isn’t reality, after all.

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Besides the movie WAL
And the DC History Club
On the Golden Age Wonder Woman:

if you want to learn how Superman Batman.and Wonder Woman were created

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All biopic books and movies use fiction as a way to shortcut story beats and wrap up stories more nearly. As long as it keeps the spirit of the spectrum matter alive, I see no problem with a few fictionalized parts.

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