I have to agree with @cyberbatgirl that Helena is more Bird of Prey than Batfamily, but I havenāt read enough to be an authority on the subject.
I first ran into her when I was reading Batman stuff back in the late 80ās/early 90ās. Recently, I enjoyed the backup feature with Helena Wayne in Wonder Woman comics. I was sad when that went away.
By far my favorite was the Birds of Prey Helena, particularly Gail Simone. Such good stuff by one of my favorite writers.
I also loved her in the movie. Mary Elizabeth Winstead did a fabulous (fantabulous?) job. I wish they had made a sequel.
Iām halved on that? I consider her worthy of the Bat Family title? But, she works with her own set of rules.
I really love all of her solo stuff. But, I guess Batman/Huntress Cry For Blood if I had to pick a specific storyline-& of course No Mans Land.
Specific eraā¦I love the 80ās-90ās era. However, huge fan of Joelle Jones & I love what sheās doing with Helena.
I like her solo, not paired. I think thatās why I was drawn to her originally. Got one of the roughest starts to life possible. Yet, still refuses to even let Batman tell her what to do or pigeonhole her into what he thinks she should be? Thatās admirable for someone who needs the help. But, only if she can do it her way.
I guess so, Iām going to say yes on this, sheās like a female version of Nightwing. And in the short lived (sadly) TV series Birds Of Prey sheās related to both Batman and Catwoman!
Probably Batman & Robin Adventures #19, cause it was the first time Iāve ever heard of her.
In my opinion I really like the idea that sheās related to Batman and Catwoman, cause I think it makes her alot more interesting character.
I definitely would like to see her team up with Hawkgirl, like the @moderators, I think they make a great team.
I know a lot of people like her teaming uo with The Question from the JLU cartoon. Did you enjorly that pair-up at all? Did you still like her as part of the Birds of Prey team?
And Iām going to go with your 4th pic as my favorite of the images you shared. With the 5th one being a close second
I really enjoyed that version of her in the Birds of Prey movie! Admittedly, have some mixed thoughts on other aspects of that movie (I really did NOT like how they used Cassandra). But I enjoyed the movie overall
I actually loved her & Question in JLU!!! Those were some of my favorite episodes by far!! I donāt mind her paired up? I like her & Nightwing, Question, of course all the BOP etc. I just see her as a solo female Batman type, but not Batgirl, cuz Huntress will go further.
Great choices on the images lol, those are my favorite 2 pieces too.
Also, Iām speaking solely about Helena Rosa Bertinelli but I love Helena Wayne too. If she was my favorite version? Then no doubt Earth 2 hands down favorite read. But Bertinelli is my Huntress even tho I love both?..Ty for the discussion, & for highlighting my 2nd favorite character!!! Iām about to logoff for my moms birthday celebration ā¦so I just wanted to give u a heads up. Feel free to post me, Iāll respond asap next time Iām online. Great stuff, great thread!!!
Thereās more than one to me so Iāll answer these for both.
Wayne is a part of the bat family, Bertinelli is more like a family friend, I donāt know if the mod is related or not. Iād have to ask.
I loved Wayne in New 52. I really liked the ending they gave her. Bertinelli appeared in a little story I may or may not like called No Manās Land (NML). I love the Fear of Faith storyline that features her heavily. Itās one of my favorite NML stories of not my favorite.
I prefer Wayne but see them as two separate people entirely. JLU huntress was amazing as well as new 52, NML, BoP (show and book, havenāt seen movie).
Wayne and Powergirl are great together as friends/cousins. Wayne and Damien was also good. I liked the story where she met Russian Batman in Convergence and her relationship with Thomas Wayne and John Grayson in new 52. Bertinelli and Question were cute together in JLU, also love Bertinelli and Black Canary as rival/friends.
āThat story sounds good! Anyone know where i can learn more about that? Friend of mine read that recently and said it was life changing. Best book ever!ā - Some anonymous person who looks like this ā
I only mentioned pre-New 52 Bertinelli-Huntress stories in my previous comment. That said, the Huntress story in Lazarus Planet: Dark Fate that was released back in February is definitely one of the best modern Huntress stories. It captured Helenaās drive and inner voice very well in a small amount of pages.
Hmmmā¦ Not really. Iām more familiar with the Bertinelli version, and most stories I read featuring her depicted Helena as an outsider who was more vigilante than hero. Sheās also been completely absent from a lot of modern Bat books I read except for āBat famā group shots.
I get that Helena Wayne would be Batfamā¦ but sheās always been an alt universe character to me. I havenāt read the new stuff by Johns.
I like the general costume theme/aesthetic (black, purple, crossbow, crossed lines) for Huntress with her stomach covered.
My favorite Huntress appearance is actually her team up with the Question in a JLU episode (Dinah and Ollie might team up in the same one?). Iāve never really liked her in comics or live action tv showsā¦
I get why you wouldnāt like live action adaptations of her. The only version I genuinely liked was the āBirds of Preyā movie, I thought she was good in that.
Care to elaborate why you just never got into her regarding comics?
Fun questions! Huntress is one of my all time favorite characters!
I definitely consider her part of the Batfamily, though definitely the outskirts because of her lethal attitude and ādoesnāt play well with othersā approach.
Favorite story and era is the Gail Simone Birds of Prey. Simone took her on such a great journey from darkness to light, and I still think itās one of the best achievements in comics. I do love Ruckaās Cry for Blood, but thatās part of what I consider her downward spiral.
I enjoy Dick and Helena as a romantic pairing. Helena and Catman is ok, but I feel like it was stuck in an unhealthy place. I donāt know if I have an OTP for her. In terms of friendships/partnerships, I do love her in the Birds of Prey with Dinah, Babs, Charlie, and Zinda.
She was fine in the BoP movie, I suppose. I didnāt really like the movie, but she wasnāt the reason.
I never got into her character because she always just seemed like a character that creators tried too hard to make cool and edgy. She also had a kind of antagonistic relationship with characters I like, but not in a good way. She just tends to rub me the wrong way.
I sometimes like characters with similar traits, so I donāt think itās just one thing.
To answer the pairing question I apparently missed, Iād say The Question, since thatās the episode I liked (could be romantic or platonic). Definitely not Nightwing, lol. Catmanā¦ eh. I donāt remember what happened there, but I recall it being built up/teased and thenā¦ eh? I might have skipped parts though.
I really havenāt read much of this version. Are you saying you wouldnāt consider Helena Wayne Batfam either? I figured the JSA version would kind of be like Jessie Quick to the Flash Family.
I consider her batfamily and I also consider her batfamily on earth 2 on earth 2 she called our batman uncle in earth 1 batman thinks sheās a part of his family I think it was hush where he said something about it but I have read so much its hard to place some things
and as for the new huntress also yes she is from a timeline where she is our batmans daughter so she is what she is even if she doesnāt know it
I guess so, Iām going to say yes on this, sheās like a female version of Nightwing. And in the short lived (sadly) TV series Birds Of Prey sheās related to both Batman and Catwoman!
ā¦so I just wanted to give u a heads up. Feel free to post me, Iāll respond asap next time Iām online. Great stuff, great thread!!!