Perhaps it could help to create a diversity label where they explore diversity within their characters. This can be more than ethnically background but also cultural. It would bring two dimensional character into more rounded, fleshed out characters. This would require a diverse writing group (this means on multiple fronts) who are excited to explore this with in their characters and for DC to market it. It would be interesting. That does fall on DC to invest into that and actually see it through the hard times and good.
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Saying Kyle Rayner is ācheatingā though,like JK Rowling saying this or that character was gay years after the fact.
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Itās essential if you are a Hepburn fan. Something about romantic comedies from that time period seem endearing to me. I donāt know lol. Mickey Rooney playing a Japanese man is definitely a sore spot thoughā¦fortunately, he doesnāt have too much screen time.
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Are you in college right now? I studied engineering back in the day! There was even a Minorities in Engineering club too at my university.
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I want DC to formally respond to this. Superhero comics should represent the good in the world we want to see. DC pride book club is the biggest club on here and there are only 7 characters in the pride articleā¦ and if they can drop a pride article why canāt they acknowledge the protests and injustice going on?
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Yep. Just finished my first year. It was kinda a rough first year because I had to work from home for half the semester due to the outbreak, but I loved the time I spent there. Thereās a ton of diversity at my school, so I have tons of options. I havenāt joined any clubs yet, but itās definitely something Iām planning to check out next year. Honestly, I did not think that diversity would actually change a line of thinking so much, but it really did have an affect on the way I learned.
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Yeah Iāve always been amazed that theyāve never done anything with Bumblebee. She seems like a neat concept.
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I asked Applejack about this on office hours. Her answer was really strong, made me feel really good about DCās behind the scenes work
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Iām not entirely sure if my learning was changed due to diversity. I think most of my engineering professors were Asian or white, math was a toss up, and electives from other Humanities were too. I think I only graduated because I studied with friends and via YouTube though lol. Some of my teachers justā¦oof.
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Nope. Sure aināt!
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Glad to see this thread!
Iāve always gotten the feeling from DC that they (as a company, not the individual artists and writers) simply donāt want to talk about race. They seem to prefer to vaguely mention solidarity and quickly change the subject. Every now and again we do get amazing books such as Naomi and (the I hope not cancelled!) Far Sector. These books donāt just showcase a black protagonist for sales but feel inclusive. They donāt just feel like a white writers idea of a black person, but a black personās lived experience. I could count on one hand the number of times Iāve seen a black women go to bed with a scarf on (in any media) and two of those occurrences were in the previously mentioned books. Itās little details like that, seemingly insignificant but immensely important, that make black readers feel seen* and not pandered to. Major kudos to Jamal Campbell on his art for both books!
Those kinds of inclusive works are what I want to be able to hand to my daughter one day. Books with characters she doesnāt need to do mental backflips to relate to.
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I like Vixen way more than PG.
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Iām not saying you donāt like her more,Iām just saying who does DC promote?
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I do wonder if the amount of submissions they get from around those demographics. I worked in tech and both blacks and Hispanics were seriously underrepresented. But, when looking at āmeet and greetā events, there was not that type of demographic in attendance. Now is this in part do to racial inequality in the industry. Absolutely, but is it also do in part to either lack of interest or lack of education, especially because of the financial costs.
Itās also a momentum thing. We are starting to see and know about writers and artists of color, LBGTQ and other underrepresented groups. That will hopefully inspire a next generation(s) to try and work in these areas.
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Words to live by. 
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Definitely should have been ahead of the game here. green lantern jhon Stewart had issues with this back in the 70s on Dennis o Neil and Neal Adams. great character in justice league cartoon heās gone nowhere and also heās also veteran marine could taget more PTSD issues soldiers have.
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Right. Itās unfortunate. Most tech guys I know were from families that could afford PCs and education. Thatās definitely a limiting factor.
Iām just suggesting it would be nice to see something closer to what you might see walking down the street being represented in comics. You know what I mean?
These stories are set in a version of our world. More often than not in the United States. I feel either represent the demographics, or set the stories on the planet Forgzlubt-12 Ā©.
Itās just a shame that Iām seeing ethnicity represented more fairly in crowd scenes, but we still have few minority characters taking the spotlight. Itās obvious creators get it. At least some artists.
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Perhaps DC should consider reducing the number of monthly titles starring their white male cishet characters in order to make room for more diverse characters. I donāt think that replacing Batman with Batwing will do anything other than cause backlash, but what if the monthly series Batman were the only one (outside of one or two Black Label books) that was headlined by Bruce Wayne? Meanwhile, Bruce could play a supporting role in a Detective Comics run headlined by Luke Fox. Do something similar with Kong Kenan in Action Comics. If people arenāt busy buying 800 Batman and Superman titles each month, they might have more money to spread around to other characters.
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Yes, it is an unfortunate situation. I hope that as access to tech has gotten cheaper, that will help. I also think the tech sector has to āget over itselfā and itās degree bias. All the requirements for 95+% of computer engineering and programming jobs could be done at the community college level. Just straight up trade schools and/or apprenticeship programs would be even better.
I was lucky and got into tech in the 80ās, when degrees werenāt as big a deal. I started as the lowest of the low, but worked my way up. It was ācan you get this done on schedule and do it right.ā People should be given opportunities and be acknowledged and promoted by nature of their ability to do the job. Not because of the piece of paper they have.
Also, firmly instituting the H1B program would help. You are only supposed to bring in H1B visas if you can show, youāve done your due diligence and there is no one in the country that can do that job. The tech sector doesnāt do that because the rules arenāt enforced.
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