DC History Club, Muck And Magic Double Feature: Swamp Thing

Oh yes I’ve seen that and just recently I think within the last month or so. Great video. Thanks for the time stamp. I believe though even in the image around the 23 mark it’s even shown on his right there. I know Alan wore it on his left but I think that may have changed at some point possibly on the right first. Like I said though I’m not much of a GL guy so I haven’t really looked into it. It was just brought to my attention here during the game last night.

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So, not really any history, but I live where swamp thang was filmed and even have a buddy who worked on the set of it and DP. The “swamp” is very pretty during the day. I guess it can be spooky at night LOL.




and here’s a turtle :rofl:

Bridge where Abbe and friend jump off.

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Not sure if it made the thread but it’s in the documentary. That question was a @TurokSonOfStone1950 special

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Holy smokes, that is history club gold. First hand account of filming locations.

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Thanks :hugs: When they did the boat explosion scene they made a town PSA letting everyone know everything’s fine and it’s for a show. :laughing:

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You couldn’t paste that into the wiki, cuz I never made it a wiki. Definitely an obstacle. Fixed it

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If you have friends
Who might want to see
The DCU Swamp Thing series
On the CW

Or if you think
It might allow
A second season

Or his appearance
On.proposed
HBO Max series
Justice League Dark:

The show will come on CW on Tuesday October 6th with a 90-minute premiere.

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Interesting to see what they edit during regular episodes. A little less Avery Sunderland would be good thing.

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So, it seems any conversation on Swamp Thing inevitably and quickly turns to Moore just from the gravitational pull of his stories. But let’s get back to Wein for a moment. For me, these 13 issues represent the peak of DC '70s horror comics. There’s a timelessness to these stories that your average House of Secrets/Mystery story just doesn’t have. One of the strengths of the stories is Wein’s deft handling of Alec Holland as a tortured man inside the body of a raging monster. The juxtaposition of Swamp Thing fighting the unMen and Alec protecting Abby is a core characteristic that Moor would expand upon. Anyone who loves Moore’s run will find a different but equally enjoyable series in Wein and Wrightson’s Swamp Thing.

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I abandoned comic books
Around 1966
For two reasons
It was getting harder and harder
To find the comics
And
The comics I did read
Seemed silly to me

What brought me back
Were the Monsters

I was going for my Masters
In.Quant Analysis
And I had
One class at 10 Am
Another at 6 pm
In 1972

I saw the Marvel
Black and White
Monster Magazines
And was intrigued.

At this time
I had no contact
With comic book.fandom
And didn’t know
What was being published

I found a comic book.store
Around 34th street
Which.had back issues

I bought (in.Fair Condition)
Denny O Neil.JLA
And Green Arrow / Green Lantern
Roy Thomas’s
the Kree Skrull War
In Avengers
Conan the Barbarian
Marv Wolfman and
Gene Colan
Tomb of Dracula

And
Len Wein
And
Bernie Wrightson
Swamp Thing

To this day
I still remember
The issue
Where
Batman met
Swamp Thing

I remember
How long Batman’s ears were
I remember how
He was so different
From when I last saw him
A force to reckoned with
And i remember
Swamp Thing’s dog
More than 47 years later

From then on
I was hooked
Especially in the monsters

Man Thing was
Like Swamp Thing
But with no intelligence
Just an emotion.feeler

Both monsters
I learned later
Was based on.
the 1940s Heap
Which appeared in Airboy

The Man Thing’s Annual
Which had the first
Howard the Duck
Also included
The Man Thing story
The Kid’s Night Out

For anybody who ever
Was shy fat with glasses
As a kid
It felt like Steve Gerber
Was talking to me

To this day
I wished I knew
a girl like Alice
Who made sure
Her friend woukd be remembered
As well
As what everyone
Had done to him
That contributed
to his death

It was an incredible time
For horror
Dracula
Frankensein.Monster
Zombie
Tigra
Blade

And soon.to come
The Spectre
In Adventure Comic
Which was lately
Put in our library

A horror comic
Staring a Super Hero

Those were the days

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Somewhat off topic
But
Man Thing
Is similar to Swamp Thing
And were first published
Within months of each other

A summary of
The Kid’s Night Out
Man Thing Annual
By Steve Gerber
A story
That is closest to my heart

It is a Steve Gerber story.
It is really excellent. A Bronze Age Story that could not have told in an earlier Age.

SPOILER OF STORY

THE KID’S NIGHT OUT.

Who ever feels fear burns at the touch of the Man Thing.

The main character Edward is a high school student who is already dead at the start of the story which is his funeral.

The minister tells each member of the family how much they loved Edward.

After a lot of these lies
Alice his only friend
shouts out that
they hated him and
he hated them.

She is dragged
to the nearby swamp
for the first encounter
with Man Thing.

Then we find out that Edward left something behind which
Alice will publish.

Later Alice reads to a group
about Edward’s life.
His dreams
and his brutal reality.

The family find out that
if this is published
their reputation
will be
ruined.
They string Alice up.

Man Thing feels
all that fear and
Comes into town.

Violence occurs

Man Thing feels sadness at the end.

He is a creature of emotion with no intelligence.

Continuation of Spoiler

Edward died
of a heart attack
after running and running
On the orders
of a sadistic gym coach

Since Edward is dead
her final words are
the opposite
of an Ordinary eulogy.
Edward was fat
a nobody.
He is dead.
No one cares

On a slower read
it seems that
it is Edward
who forces Man Thing
to go to the city
to rescue Alice
the only girl
he has ever kissed.

Man Thing is clumsy like Edward was.

Steve gives Edward
the narrative now
as he enacts revenge.

Alice tells rescuers
that she felt
Edward had been there
and
asks him to stop
after seeing the
gym teacher dragged away by Edward/Man Thing.

It is stated
teacher had every chance
to say he was sorry but
The thought never entered his mind.

lt must have been wonderful to have an Alice in a person’s life.

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Man, I always love hearing how people came or came back to comics, and how comic books have impacted us emotionally. I’ve told my tale of Swamp Thing and will add an addendum later, but Man Thing’s impact on you is just another great example. Thanks, MSGTV

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Not off topic at all. Man Thing v Swamp Thing was certainly something I thought of but my experience with Man Thing was cursory at best, and just didn’t have time to dig that way. Again, thanks for this I’ve got a whole spiel in my head about comic books as great literature I’ll post at some point.

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During Rick Veitch’s run, a parade float includes “Swamp Thing.” Look famaliar?
Swamp Thing Man Thing

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I started reading comics with Star Wars in '77 and moved to superheroes, mainly Marvel. I didn’t ever read the horror comics. This year I read a House of Mystery comic, the first year of Moore’s Swamp Thing and now the three comics you recommended for this week

I like the character and his origin… There is some good world building with the supporting cast and Swamp Things motivations. I think Berni Wrightson created a great swamp monster.

Out of the three issues, you see how quickly it went from horror to science fiction. It seems during this time you created a character and then just threw any and all stories at it.

I enjoyed reading them. Some good Halloween fun. Looking forward to the books for next week. I’ll watch the Alan Moore videos above then as well.

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@Wilks cool that you got sucked in through Star Wars. I would have been out of comics then, probably stop in 75/76 in Jr High, then start up again in fall of '82 when in job training in the Army after basic a roommate gave me a copy of the X-Men. Cochrum and Austin, the X-Men in space.
Wein’s run is real quality. I need to read the black and white issues that follow. Read one, but they just don’t have the same magic and they go real Sci-Fi which is great if you can pull it off like Wein did. Character Club has some of the unMen monster issues from Swamp Thing '72 coming up in a couple of weeks.

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Len Wein.was a good writer.
I especially liked his Justice League stories

These are ‘done in one’ stories
Which has become a lost art.

Each issue here provides
A satisfying story
Complete in itself

Though there may be
A continuation of some
Treads from issue to issue

The three issues show a great range

A monster is the ulimate Other
Not being understood
Or even understanding
What is going around them

We all feel like Other sometimes
Or at least we are Imposters
Fakimg it all the way
Through life
Never revealing
Our fears hopes and dreams
To others or even ourselves.

Doomed to ultimate failure.

Monsters reflect that
And the anger
Oh yes the anger
To solve problems
Through
Violent physical means
Even more than
many super heroes
Because they are
More often death dealers
To those who would try
To use them

That is we read these stories
Why these mean something to us

Len lasted 13 issues
But Bernie only ten

They needed each other
To pull off
Swamp Thing successfully

Issue 11 is a little jarring
Issue 12 more so
Nobody looks right
The colors looks too vibrant

But oh those ten issues!

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I think this is a very analysis of what makes the Wein/Wrightson Swamp Thing work so well. I don’t think you can easily categorize Swamp Thing as horror, superhero, sci-fi, or whatever genre because at its best it defies those categories. Both Wein and Moor recognize this. And getting that monster/hero mix just right is the magic that elevates the character. I read issue 14 by David Michelinie, and while it’s not bad it misses the mark in its depiction of Swamp Thing. Like Pasko in 1982, Michelinie treats Swamp Thing like just a really strong green guy, a miniature jolly green giant. I’ll go back and finish those stories at some point, but they just aren’t compelling.

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Swamp Facts

1980 Movie Michael Uslan got movie rights to Swamp Thing and John Constantine for free because Warner Brother executive considered characters to be useless in terms of profit. How times (don’t) change

1982 Movie Swamp Thing Wes Craven Producer Michael Uslan.

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Swamp Fact: Swamp Thing movie 1982: The Embassy Pictures movie starring Adrienne Barbeau and some dudes, directed by Wes Craven had an estimated budget of $3,000,000. But, Embassy Pictures did not publicly release box office totals.

Swamp Fact: The Return of Swamp Thing 1989: The Millimeter Films production starring Heather Locklear and some dudes had a world wide box office of $192,000. It does however have writing credits for Grant Morrison, Len Wein, and Bernie Wrightson.


Swamp Fact: Swamp Thing 1982: I’m going to buy this movie and watch it.

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