DC History Club June 2021: Supergirl Being Super and Her Creators

Does Kara’s Tracksuit
Remind you of anything?

Maybe
This?

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All the above screenshots

Leave out
The quiet moments
The conversations

Which I think
Are the heart and soul
Of this issue.

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On Thursday, June 3rd
Discussions
on issues 2 to 4
Will start

But comments
On issue 1
Are still welcome.

All DC History Club topics
Remain open indefinitely.

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First on Jones, her work definitely elevates the story. Just the image of Kara holding herself, one leg crossed behind the other while Jen gets ready to run. There’s a vulnerability to Kara, she’s literally protecting herself and there’s a power to Jen behind her. Just really nicely done. Jones has a somewhat angular style, but not too much so. The inks in this book have fairly heavy lines. It feels like her current work on Wonder Girl has lighter lines and maybe a little less angular.

Now Tamaki. Without giving anything away here, I think it’s fair to say she takes her time. She builds the book far more through character than action. That’s not a criticism, but the book is more intriguing than it is compelling. I feel like she’s probably halfway between her pacing for a YA graphic novel and a monthly book. Her current Batman work has nice characterization, establishes the neighborhood but moves at a much brisker pace. This is a story that is definitely helped by being able to read all four books back to back.

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It was interesting to read a take on Kara where she basically grew up like Superman. I am accustomed to the original origin where she arrives on Earth as a teen. Seeing her with friends she grew up with was actually a nice change.

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Agree, orphan girl always feels more like a gimmick and ‘how do I keep a secret ID’ this lets her feel more like a fully developed person/character

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I first read the
First Appearance of
Supergirl
In a 80 page Superman Giant comic in the early 1960s.

I felt sad for her.

She didn’t come here
As a baby
She was 14 to 16.

Everyone
She ever knew
Died
Abruptly
Painfully

She was the sole survivor
Of a now extinct culture.

Then she finds out that
Superman is her cousin

She had family still!

And what does the SOB do?

He dumps her
In an orphanage

“To protect his secret identity.”

The same reason
He tortured
Lois Lane for decades.

But more on that
Next week

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This topic is now
open to reactions
to all four issues
Of

Supergirl Being Super

Issue 1 ended with

A massive natural disaster

Kara saving a fellow student

Then

looking around
To find someone close to her

And not seeing her.

Issue 2 is my favorite issue

(I think issues 3 and 4 has aspects that fail because the young Tomaki is trying to add more ‘comic book’ conflict and action

Rather than the more realistic first two issues)

In creating issue 2
I can almost see

Mariko Tamaki telling
Joelle Jones

"We have 48 pages

Here are the events
I want us to cover:

Kara struggling to advert disaster

Losing

Kara Reacting to that Lost

Together

And then
With each
of her remaining life lines
one by one

Memories or Dreams
Of Earlier times
On Earth and Krypton

Finding an artifact that causes a journey to begin

How should we best go about this?"

And then
They did it
Magnificently

What are
Your reactions
To issue 2?

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A different take on

Supergirl in high school

Young Kara and Alex

CW Supergirl

There are several excerpts from this episode on YouTube

Season 3 Episode 6

After Maggie leaves Alex

Kara and Alex go back to childhood home

Then flashback

Where two adopted sisters
Who hate each other
Initially
Work together
On their first murder case
In high school

Bought the episode for 1.99

Intriguing line

Clark has a friend named Cloie
Knows tech
Even has a Wall of Weird

A Smallville reference

She is in Midvale

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Until the end of issue 3, this series was more interesting that compelling or exciting to me. That’s not necessarily a fatal flaw. It’s a great character study, you really get to feel you know who Kara and her two best friends are and how they think and feel. And, you become invested in them to some extent.
But, I’m also not sure if I was picking this up monthly if this would have been at the top of my weekly reading list. There was nothing about it for me that demanded I read the next issue right away. It wasn’t slow exactly, but it definitely had a leisurely pace.
On art, Jones is an A+.
I get why others my love this book, but I just really liked it.

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I’ll be sure to drop my thoughts on Being Super later but just thought I’d drop this here for the general Supergirl discussion:

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Placed it in the Reference Wiki

When we get to
1982
The Daring Adventures of Supergirl

Will bring it up again

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Issue 3 was good

(Then three friends were now only two

She knows.
Enough

“I don’t care if you are different.”)

Except for who the “super villain” was

How can you do much research when you have another full time job?

She seemed to have people to call when ‘research’ didn’t go as planned.

So “They” couldn’t afford to pay her an adequate salary?

Other than that

Kara knows:

Her dream of another world was real.

Around 6 she came to Earth.

Soon after she tried to help.

The ones she helped considered her to be a monster

Today
A cry for help.

She goes.

Conflict
Hero doing

She knows her real name
She always knew.

Leaves home because found out

There’s this boy you see.
(As always)

When he got hurt
He got hard

Together for the Finale

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Wow

I just reread issue 4

Yesterday
I read the issue quickly

I thought there were big plot holes.

Now I read it
Panel by panel
On my phone.

I didn’t get everything
Because my vision is poor

And It was on a phone.

I had watched
V for Vandetta
And there was
A dominoes scene
Where
One dominoe falls
And
The rest fall
One by one

Kara’s remaining
Best friend Dolly
Is taken by the bad guys.

That was the first dominoe.

Midway
Kara finally remembers
What her parents
Were telling her
Just Before
She Rocketed from Krypton.

Krypton was about to Explode

I found out the deep motivations
Of the two main villains

Who thought they were heroes

And finally
Recognized
That

Like life

Their motives were
Complex and understandable

The rest of the story
Flows oh so well.

It was that kind of a story

Where the next action
HAD to occur

And then the next.

The wrapup was
Very satisfying.

All loose threads
Were fixed

A new status quo established.

Yet
At least
Five Storylines
Could continue

Dolly

Without Kara
But not alone

The Male Kryptonian

Who refuses to accept
That Krypton is no more

Lex Luthor

Who wants

Those new Kryptonians
Found

And who will accept no excuses

Kara Danvers

Far from home
With limited resources

In Metropolis

And
Then a wosh

Up in the Sky

Superman

And then the last line

Spoken In the air

Creating untold possibilities

“Hey
Uh
Can I talk to you
For a second?”

And the last caption:

Here we go.

VERY WELL DONE

I congratulate
Everyone
Who worked on this.

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To me, the strongest issue of the series. Mariko Tamaki does her best work here combining the strong characterization from the rest of the series to some compelling action/conflict. And, the ending with Kara’s meeting Superman is very nicely done. It certainly does feel like more issues should be coming from this ending.

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Starting Tomorrow
I will discuss the
First Appearance of
Supergirl in
Action Comics 252 in 1959

But here is her
Upcoming comic
With her current
Origin Story

Which is
Less Complicated
Than the original

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The origin
Given in
The above post
Is the latest
Posted one month ago.

It differs
From the 1959 original
As well as
The CW Supergirl series.

There are other versions

Here is a link
To some of
The other origin stories

That can be used
As part of the roadmap
To describe
Supergirl’s more than
60 year old history.

Supergirl Origins | DC Database | Fandom.

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I just read Adventures of Supergirl, we only have 6 chapters on DCUI and the 3rd story arc is left on a cliffhanger. I am a fan of the TV show and it actually got me into the Arrowverse. The comic is a lot of fun and even has a reference or two to the comic versions of Supergirl.


This was a direct reference to her first appearance in Action Comics 252.

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Today
We will start to discuss

First Appearance of Supergirl Action Comics (1938) 252, in 1959

Before we do that
Some background on
Comic books published around this time is in order

I suggest watching
The free video
On YouTube
Presented by
Warner Brothers

Secret Origin: The Story of DC Comics

In that hour and a half you will get a good overview of most of our comic book library. It was filmed in 2009 so of course can’t talk about newer than that

DC Comics in the 1950s
When Supergirl
Was first published
Starts around
29 minutes and a half hour in

Also
Below is an excerpt from my

Super Hero Genre History

1945 Comic book More Fun 101 introduced Superboy - Superman when he was young. Superboy was not part of Siegel Shuster contract. Siegel suggested it but DC said no. DC used character while Siegel was in Army

1946 Soldiers return home.
Comic book sales drop dramatically because no longer shipped to soldiers, former soldiers think of comics as related to war, comic book covers no longer can carry dramatic and patriotic War themes.

1947 Court Case As 10 year contract nears end, Siegel Shuster sue DC for rights to Superman and Superboy. They lose the case and are fired by DC.

1947 Comic Book Simon Kirby Young Romance

1947 Wonder Woman creator Marston dies. His wife Elizabeth asks for her being given the right to write Wonder Woman, as she worked with her husband on it. DC refuses.

1950 Comic Book EC Comics Crime Horror

1950s Most superheroes no longer published. Only Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Superboy, and backups Aquaman and Green Arrow survived

Replacements were:

Cowboy titles: (Atlas, now Marvel, had Kid Colt Outlaw, Rawhide Kid, Two-Gun Kid, and Wild Western, all by Stan Lee. Harvey had Boys’ Ranch, by Simon and Kirby, DC Comics had All-Star Western, which replaced the JSA in All Star Comics in 1951)

Humor/Romance: (Archie, at Atlas: Mille the Model and Patsy Walker (lHellcat decades later) by Stan Lee),

and EC Comics: (Crime, Horror, Science Fiction, War and Humor (Mad)).

1952 TV Adventures of Superman

1954 Court Case National Comics Publications versus Fawcette Publications. Judge ruled Captain Marvel was a copy of Superman in 1952, after 11 years of litigation. Fawcette paid 400,000 in damages and got out of declining super hero market. Whiz Comics ended with issue #155 in June 1953, Captain Marvel Adventures was canceled with #150 in November 1953, and The Marvel Family ended its run with #89 in January 1954.

1954 Book Seduction of the Innocent Comic book says comic books are a cause of juvenile delinquency

Batman Robin were portrayed in the book as homosexuals living together Superman was a fascist. Wonder Woman was a Lesbian.

1954 Congressional Hearing on Comics EC Publisher Bill Gaines Testifies. Public Relations disaster

1954 Comic Code Authority
(CCA) created, providing self censorship guidelines for remaining publishers.

1954 Wholesalers refuse EC Comics because no CCA seal on covers

1955 Comic Book Detective Comics backup Jonn Jonzz / Martian Manhunter in Detective Comics #225. Story

Reprinted in World’s Finest Comics #175

1956 to 1967 Comic Books Jerry Siegel 's second wife, who modeled for Siegel Shuster as Lois Lane, shamed DC to employ Siegel as a writer for Superman stories again including Return to Krypton and Imaginary Story Death of Superman.

1956 Comic Book Showcase 4 The Flash. Barry Allen Julius Schwartz editor. Kanigher Infantino Kubert

The Silver Age Starts

1958 Comic Book Adventure Comics Legion of Super Heroes. by Otto Binder.

1959 Comic Book Supergirl Action Comics 252. Otto Binder who had created Mary Marvel, sister of Billy Batson / Captain Marvel

1959 Comic Book Showcase 22 Green Lantern Hal.Jordan by Schwartz Broome Kane

1960 Comic Book Brave and Bold Justice League of America
Flash Green Lantern Wonder Woman Aqiaman.Martian Manhunter, with Batman and Superman only occasionally appearing in early issue.
Schwartz Fox Sekowsky

1961 Comic Book Marvel Fantastic Four Lee Kirby. On golf course, DC publisher Jack Liebowitz told Marvel Publisher Martin Goodman of big hit JLA by editor Julius Schwartz. Goodman tells Stan Lee, cousin to Goodman’s wife, to create a title with a group of super heroes. Julie said later on, “I not only saved DC Comics, I saved Marvel Comics too.”

1961 Comic Book Flash 123 Flash of Two Worlds Original Flash Jay Garrick, Earth 2 parallel world introduced. Schwartz Fox Infantino.

1961 Comic Book Brave and the Bold 34 Hawkman Schwartz Fox Kubert

1962 Comic Book Marvel Amazing Fantasy 15 Spider-Man Lee Ditko

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Mort Weisinger was NOT a nice man.

He humiliated his staff, including Superman Creator Jerry Siegel and E Nelson Bridwell, routinely, every working day. Roy Thomas only lasted a week with him before fleeing to work with Stan Lee at Marvel Comics.

But he created a strange and unique world

For the Superman titles in the 1950s and 1960s

Here is his take on that era

http://theages.superman.nu/Creators/weisinger_interview.php

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