When were Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman first referred to as the Trinity. I just looked at Matt Wagner’s miniseries and thought that I didn’t hear them referred to as such when I was growing up.
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It was actually 90s Wonder Woman writer Eric Luke who first coined the concept of the “Trinity,” in 1998’s Wonder Woman #140. Luke’s thesis was the then novel concept that Wonder Woman was just as important to the DC universe as the ubiquitous Batman and Superman. Then Matt Wagner ran with the concept for his miniseries, and it was really cemented in place in the mid-2000s thanks to Geoff Johns on Infinite Crisis, Brad Meltzer on Justice League, and the 52 maxiseries which defined their importance by their absence.
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Is it really less novel of a concept now than it was in 1998?
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We do take it more for granted that it’s supposed to be true.
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What are all the entrances to the Batcave both in and out of canon?
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One is under your bed.
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This is another “how many” question, so there may be some obscure ones I miss because it’s unreasonable to ask me to account for literally every Batman story, but these are the big ones.
The main one is behind the grandfather clock in Bruce’s study, which he accesses by changing the hands on the clock. There’s also one sometimes depicted behind a bookcase, most famously in the 60s Batman show. There’s a well outside of Wayne Manor which provides a link to the cave, how Bruce first fell in as a child. And most variously, a vast network of tunnels and caves beneath Gotham that allows him to leave with his various Bat-vehicles, including one with a disguised exit on to an abandoned road close to the manor.
For media outside the comics, here’s a video that covers it.
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Awesome! Thanks so much!
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Even though members of the JLA first met the Freedom Fighters of Earth-X in issues #107 & '08 of the Justice League of America (vol.1), in 1973, the Atom wasn’t among them. So, when did he first meet Quality’s Doll Man? And did the two ever share any adventures together, either before, or after COIE? With all the reboots and whatnot that have followed since then, I haven’t a clue. Thanks!
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Has Aunt Harriet ever found out Batman and/or Robin’s identity?
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The closest she ever got was in 1966’s Detective Comics #361, when she accidentally discovers the Batcave while dusting. In classic Superman style, Batman and Robin had to plant a bunch of false clues to convince her that she was mistaken.
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Not comics related, but:
Is this the oldest active topic on the board?
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Doll Man actually encountered the Golden Age Atom, Al Pratt, long before he ever met the shrinking Atom. Both are present at a meeting of the All-Star Squadron for the first time in 1984’s All-Star Squadron #31-32, but during their shared tenures with the large team they don’t speak to each other or even share a panel. Similarly, both Al and Doll Man are in Crisis on Infinite Earths, but they don’t cross paths. And in The Golden Age #4, Al and Doll Man are both present at the final fight against Dynaman, but don’t directly interact.
The first and only time Ray Palmer meets Doll Man in any continuity, it’s as an enemy. In 2006’s Justice League Unlimited #17, a rogue officer in the US government orders the Freedom Fighters to take down the League. Naturally, Doll Man is singled out as The Atom’s opponent.
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Close, but not quite. “What’s the last movie you saw?” in the Iceberg Lounge has been active since November 2018.
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Thanks for that most interesting answer, good sir. I was curious as to what your research would turn up. It couldn’t help but remind me of some very different views of America, as seen through the eyes of two of it’s most important icons, right now. In 1976 (as Americans were celebrating a very special 4th of July), The people at Marvel published a very special Treasury Edition. A rare written and illustrated 84 page adventure of Captain America, by Jack Kirby. The “King” takes Cap on a mystical trip through America’s history. From it’s founding, up through (then) present time. Naturally, it’s upbeat, and glosses over much of the ugliness that is as much a part of America, as anything else.
Twenty one years later, Steve Darnall and Alex Ross would produce Uncle Sam, in 1997. A two-issue, prestige format graphic novel, with a much more honest view of America, warts 'n all. I went back and looked at that underrated and rarely discussed classic from DC’s Vertigo line back then. I can only imagine what that story would look like, if those gentlemen were telling it, in today’s political climate. It does make you wonder what we’ll look like, as we 'celebrate" our 250th anniversary as a nation, doesn’t it?
Thanks again, and have a good night.
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I’d be skirting the rules of the board to address my own political opinions here. I’ll just say that I love America but, as all nations are, it’s a far from perfect society which we must all work together to improve.
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I have a question about your favorite superhero.
In the JLU episode Double Date Question joked about airline luggage being lost. Is this a reference to something from the comics or just a paranoia joke?
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Just a paranoia joke. At the time Gail Simone wrote that episode, she hadn’t read much of The Question and was only working off the show’s previous episodes featuring the character.
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Thanks
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I was reading The Movement and got to wondering. Is there an official standing for New 52 characters that were original to those issues? Are the members of the Movement or The Green Team still around after rebirth or is it nebulous?
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